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, but i guess in my mind i think of traditional economy being the post-new deal economy of relatively robust high tax rates on high earners and a social safety net that is part of the social compact. to me that's tradition. that's 80 years. >> that's american. and i've -- you know, i've been working at investments -- well, really i bought my first stock when i was 11 but i started selling stocks when i was 20 and i sold stocks when personal income tax rates got as high as 91%. i've sold them when capital gains rate got as high as 39.6% and we had some wonderful periods of growth and g.d.p. and the middle-class as well as the rich prospered when tax rates were much higher than they are now. >> jon: well, we'll take a commercial and come back and talk about an op-ed that you wrote which laid out some of the math of this and some other financial going on in the world. we'll be right back. more from warren buffett and carol loomis right after this. (cheers and applause). >> jon: welcome back, we're talking with warren buffett and carol loomis. you know, we're talking a little bit about --
, but i guess in my mind i think of traditional economy being the post-new deal economy of relatively robust high tax rates on high earners and a social safety net that is part of the social compact. to me that's tradition. that's 80 years. >> that's american. and i've -- you know, i've been working at investments -- well, really i bought my first stock when i was 11 but i started selling stocks when i was 20 and i sold stocks when personal income tax rates got as high as 91%. i've sold...
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we have to do what will allow them to grow the economy. to hire more people. >> eric: online for this -- >> brian: leave it there. >> eric: coming up. >> eric: face to face with the critic over the bungling of benghazi. we'll tell you what went down on capitol hill. it wasn't pretty. that is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> brian: thanks to greg gutfeld for the lights on his book tour. he didn't want two it. came out great. meeting that white house hoped would smooth susan rice's nomination, but the republican lawmakers set a stage for showdown over the ambassador comments following the benghazi attack. senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantl
we have to do what will allow them to grow the economy. to hire more people. >> eric: online for this -- >> brian: leave it there. >> eric: coming up. >> eric: face to face with the critic over the bungling of benghazi. we'll tell you what went down on capitol hill. it wasn't pretty. that is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> brian: thanks to greg gutfeld for the lights on his book tour. he didn't want two it. came out great. meeting that white house...
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not because it's good for the economy. he has a totally noneconomic reason for it and he's serious, we'll tell you what it is next. >> new at 10, warren buffett who has been begging the government to raise taxes on rich people like himself, well, instead of writing a check, he says, we should tax the rich because it will, quote, raise thh morale in the middle glass. he's serious. and all raising taxes on the wealthy may do, the big story of the day, president obama's campaign, holding more meetings on the fiscal cliff instead of real talks with politicians who have to decide this thing. and going on the road and selling the campaign harry reid says no cuts, democrats have cut spending and entitlements already. >> remember, we've already done more and billion dollars worth of cuts and we've already done that and we need to get credit for at that and these negotiations that take place. >> and the president's position, no more cuts, we're talking about it all with this company. sandra smith is here, and charles payne and as a
not because it's good for the economy. he has a totally noneconomic reason for it and he's serious, we'll tell you what it is next. >> new at 10, warren buffett who has been begging the government to raise taxes on rich people like himself, well, instead of writing a check, he says, we should tax the rich because it will, quote, raise thh morale in the middle glass. he's serious. and all raising taxes on the wealthy may do, the big story of the day, president obama's campaign, holding...
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the real revenue growth comes from a growing economy. you don't want to kill economic growth and end up with less revenue. we are reaching out, providing the revenue, but doing it in a way that gets people back to work and generates revenue from growth. gerri: i have to tell you, what i hear are people who are continuing to pitch their own position and not move into the center and the thing that amazes me, and ensure it amzes the american people, there is not even another meeting scheduled yet. how is that possible? days from the deadline. gerri: we should be meeting every day, and we are putting revenue on the table. that is a big step. the administration has to engage with us. gerri: thank you for coming on. we appreciate. ho you will come bck as these negotiations continue. hopefully you can find some kind of resolution. >> thank you. gerri: meanwhe, the house is back in session after the thanksgiving break. the speaker was met with an unusual demonstration. naked protesters, no kidding, outside his office. by the time we get our came
the real revenue growth comes from a growing economy. you don't want to kill economic growth and end up with less revenue. we are reaching out, providing the revenue, but doing it in a way that gets people back to work and generates revenue from growth. gerri: i have to tell you, what i hear are people who are continuing to pitch their own position and not move into the center and the thing that amazes me, and ensure it amzes the american people, there is not even another meeting scheduled yet....
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we're burning a lot more coal relative to the economy than we are now. there are control freaks out there. there are control freaks, they'll use something to control people and used it for y2k and there are control freaks on the environment. >> have you noticed even in your intro, you heard them citing one scientist. it's never a collection of scientists, never a consensus of scientists, it's always they're referencing of one particular scientists. >> and in fact, it almost is always a consensus of scientists. in this case, one person they were quoting. with all due respect to you, ben, as you like to say, i'll go with the scientists over your opinion on global warming, this is someone who studies it for a living. >> and there are many who have a very different point of view. >> there are a million of people who study it. >> adam, the consensus has not been met among scientists on this issue or that it actually plays a part in the global warming phenomenon they've come up with somehow, so you should probably know that there is not a collective viewpoint.
we're burning a lot more coal relative to the economy than we are now. there are control freaks out there. there are control freaks, they'll use something to control people and used it for y2k and there are control freaks on the environment. >> have you noticed even in your intro, you heard them citing one scientist. it's never a collection of scientists, never a consensus of scientists, it's always they're referencing of one particular scientists. >> and in fact, it almost is...
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economy. in the health-care system, whatever. most of the jobs are created in small enterprises, not in the big plants. he said to me, we have one problem, we get no credit. no greek bank can give us the credit. this is the thing in spain and italy, the credit crunch is one of the biggest problems. my proposal is to go away from austerity by gaining trust by overcoming the credit crunch. and i think at the end, by helping those countries who are nevertheless under the attack of speculator. in the case of italy -- i must admit this is not possible because you need unanimity. it makes no sense that mario monti in italy wants to get a reduction of about 70 billion euros an effect in the budget, three or 4 million a year to finance the separate debt. this is a direct transfer of taxpayers' money into the pockets of speculators. i think the obstacles for the free-trade agreement are enormous. especially on the european side, in my eyes is more ideological founded than it is an expression of an appr
economy. in the health-care system, whatever. most of the jobs are created in small enterprises, not in the big plants. he said to me, we have one problem, we get no credit. no greek bank can give us the credit. this is the thing in spain and italy, the credit crunch is one of the biggest problems. my proposal is to go away from austerity by gaining trust by overcoming the credit crunch. and i think at the end, by helping those countries who are nevertheless under the attack of speculator. in...
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if the economy, does the economy rapidly improve? there are a lot of different factors but by and large people act rationale if they know those stocks going to get hammered, you will pay extra taxes you shy away from the stocks and why warren buffett has the bully puppet, i know he is a billionaire but he is a speculator and a political mouthpiece of the administration and it is tiring listening to this guy like he is the greatest economic mind we have? come on. >>neil: you are going --. >>guest: he hat made his share of mistakes, remember that sleazy deal? >>neil: we say the dividend rate could go to the top, whatever the income rate could be the rate you pay on taxes. the rumble over ronald, the unions going after the fast food powerhouse but why you could be the one getting kicked. we bel, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar tra
if the economy, does the economy rapidly improve? there are a lot of different factors but by and large people act rationale if they know those stocks going to get hammered, you will pay extra taxes you shy away from the stocks and why warren buffett has the bully puppet, i know he is a billionaire but he is a speculator and a political mouthpiece of the administration and it is tiring listening to this guy like he is the greatest economic mind we have? come on. >>neil: you are going --....
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interest rates to resume their normal ised rates in the four and five percent which would force the economy to have to pay its way here in britain instead of relying on handouts and welfare from the bank of england and the city so naturally he had to go he had to walk the plank to bring in a duff mark carney who will introduce on orthodox central banking techniques more in the style of bend shyster bernanke in which is horrible for the u.k. pound you think it's a poison chalice for mark carney either he raises interest rates to defend the pound of course causing a real estate crash or he goes down the path of allowing the pound to be debased he's going to actually here's what i predict i predict marconi will well devalued the british pound by twenty five percent he's going to force a currency devaluation as part of these currency wars that's my prediction from mark carney he will do the right thing by letting the economy. work through no natural interest rate rises no do the wrong thing and devalue the british pound again you know he was part of the financial stability board up until i assu
interest rates to resume their normal ised rates in the four and five percent which would force the economy to have to pay its way here in britain instead of relying on handouts and welfare from the bank of england and the city so naturally he had to go he had to walk the plank to bring in a duff mark carney who will introduce on orthodox central banking techniques more in the style of bend shyster bernanke in which is horrible for the u.k. pound you think it's a poison chalice for mark carney...
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is going to die i mean it has to just as phony we need to get rid of it so we can have a real economy arise to take its place but i think people are underestimating around the world just how important cheap money is to our borrow and spend economy and they're overestimating the ability the fed to to withdraw that liquidity and have the economy continue to grow on its own it can't you know the growth that we're having now is not legitimate growth it is simply borrowed money that we're spending and we're counting out as economic growth the fed i believe knows it i think that's the real reason it keeps interest rates so low is because it knows the economy will implode without it it knows that the only thing keeping the banks from failing is cheap money the only thing keeping the real state a cup market from plunging is cheap money the only thing that that allows the government to maintain the illusion of sovereignty is cheap money and the idea that the cheap money propecia away but at some point always fast ideas that and you know phony opinions are going to are going to collide with rea
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having to get deeper into that whole would not be good for the economy. liz: thank you for joining us rea.we like our governors of evy state. he is an independent. if so many defense jobs. our governors on the edge week. utah governor in another fox business exclusive. they have a very low unemployment rate unlike rhode island, but he says it will be impacted if d.c. cannot reach an greement. the closing bell ringing in about 47 minutes. would you do business in a dangerous area if you thought the risk might bring huge rewards? libya wants business in a huge way. we're not just talking about oil rigs and pipelines, but also massive infrastructure projects, roads, schools, you name it. part of the royal libyan family. he is back in his job is to sell libya on u.s. companies. find out what he thinks there is a big payoff for american businnss. a fox business exclusive. having you ship my gifts couldn't beasier. well, having a t olocations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male
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slowing economy there. >>> chevron taking full-page ads in argentina newspapers. appealing for argentina's court to end freeze assets in the country. an argentina judge ordered freeze earlier this month on behalf of claimants in ecuador. think want a $19 billion damage stealthment. chevron says the case is fraudulent. interesting they're taking to the media. >>> why is the u.s. sending billions of dollars to egypt in fresh aid when president morsi is becoming a dictator before our very eyes? we'll talk about that, why that money might be better spent at home. "piles of money" coming up. ♪ look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic onchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copsymptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintance treatment that does both. spiriva handiher tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, g
slowing economy there. >>> chevron taking full-page ads in argentina newspapers. appealing for argentina's court to end freeze assets in the country. an argentina judge ordered freeze earlier this month on behalf of claimants in ecuador. think want a $19 billion damage stealthment. chevron says the case is fraudulent. interesting they're taking to the media. >>> why is the u.s. sending billions of dollars to egypt in fresh aid when president morsi is becoming a dictator before...
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these currency wars that's my prediction from mark carney he will do the right thing by letting the economy work through no natural interest rate rises no they'll do the wrong thing and devalue the british pound again you know he was part of the financial stability board up until i assume now and that's where the shadow banking system is so i think that it's something that we should look for because we know that a lot of the shadow banking has moved to london so i think it's something that they're worried about is something to look for for the future as this collapse goes out of back and system relies on zero percent interest rate that he's going to retain this conflict of interest he's going to retain financial stability authority position that's a huge conflict so if you've got goldman as you pointed out stretching all across europe all crossed the world to create a new ice age and economic growth due to zero percent interest rates let's have the equivalent of you know below zero temperatures in the ecology bringing and the ice like conditions of no growth frozen and frozen due to these c
these currency wars that's my prediction from mark carney he will do the right thing by letting the economy work through no natural interest rate rises no they'll do the wrong thing and devalue the british pound again you know he was part of the financial stability board up until i assume now and that's where the shadow banking system is so i think that it's something that we should look for because we know that a lot of the shadow banking has moved to london so i think it's something that...
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that's not good for the economy at this point. and i'm really thinking of the home mortgage deduction. >> i think the home mortgage deduction could go. >> entirely? >> beneaneither of the commissi recommend recommended removing it entirely. the deduction which primarily is an advantage for high income people into a credit up to a limit. that would mean that people with much more modest incomes, who now don't itemize their deductions would get the benefit of this credit. it would be hard on high income people with very large houses. but we have just built too many too many large houses, you would have to phase it out. but i think that would be a good solution. >> on the subject of tax reform, i know in simpson-bowles there was a proposal to lower corporate taxes, do you think that is still a possibility if in fact we still move to additional tax reform in 2013? >> i do. i think that broadening the base of the income tax, the corporate income tax is also a good idea. getting rid of a lot of special provisions that riddle the tax and
that's not good for the economy at this point. and i'm really thinking of the home mortgage deduction. >> i think the home mortgage deduction could go. >> entirely? >> beneaneither of the commissi recommend recommended removing it entirely. the deduction which primarily is an advantage for high income people into a credit up to a limit. that would mean that people with much more modest incomes, who now don't itemize their deductions would get the benefit of this credit. it...
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and will it get the economy going, no. so regardless of pledge or no pledge, i don't have a horse in this race, i'm part of the common sense party here, we have to fix the problem and raising taxes doesn't fix that problem. >> warren buffett came out this week and said the exact opposite. no disrespect to you but he's worth $40 billion and is considered to be the most successful investor in the history of mankind. he says throughout his life, throughout his career, there have been many periods with much higher tax rates, it's never made a dicky bird's difference to people's willingness to invest and that the combination of reduced spending and a few higher taxes for the wealthier people in america is the perfect answer. i just don't get a coherent argument why you can't do a bit of both. >> here's the issue, is that we have never had a period with more than 1% of the gdp in terms of tax hikes since 1969. that was the last time that happened and that put us into a recession and then we had several decades of increasing unem
and will it get the economy going, no. so regardless of pledge or no pledge, i don't have a horse in this race, i'm part of the common sense party here, we have to fix the problem and raising taxes doesn't fix that problem. >> warren buffett came out this week and said the exact opposite. no disrespect to you but he's worth $40 billion and is considered to be the most successful investor in the history of mankind. he says throughout his life, throughout his career, there have been many...
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pro-growth policies that kickstart the economy rather than hurting the economy. likewise, we have laid out a bipartisan plan to address the drivers of our debt in the spending programs. i think house republicans are eager to work and negotiate with democrats in the senate and the president once they figure out what their proposal is to address the fundamental problems. >> my colleagues have laid out the issues very well. republicans want to avert the fiscal cleft in its entirety -- liff in its entirety. what we need is the president to come forward with a plan on how he wants to avert the fiscal cliff. it is irresponsible of us not to deal with the spending issue and simply to push for raising taxes on hard-working american people. many of us come from small- business backgrounds -- family owned businesses. we understand the situation very well. but it isn't -- it is important we not pass this problem along to our children and grandchildren, but we deal with it in a responsible way. the republicans have come forward with a responsible plan and will continue to do
pro-growth policies that kickstart the economy rather than hurting the economy. likewise, we have laid out a bipartisan plan to address the drivers of our debt in the spending programs. i think house republicans are eager to work and negotiate with democrats in the senate and the president once they figure out what their proposal is to address the fundamental problems. >> my colleagues have laid out the issues very well. republicans want to avert the fiscal cleft in its entirety -- liff...
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if they bring a deal that is too drastic of a stop it is not going to be good for the economy either. >> the bottom line is they are going through hoops to avoid what is core problematic for their respective party dna. the republicans don't want to raise rates. so they will go through all sorts of hoops to essentially get as much if not more revenue and effectively screwing the red chief and more. they don't wnt to address entitlement spending and even slowing the growth. it would be equated with throwing granny off the cliff. and there in lies the casm. we have to close it. >> we do have to close it. if you are looking at all of these programs, are they even going to reduce the deficit? if they have the combined affect of slowing down the economy, the deficit reduction doesn't take place. they have to be more pro active and they have to get aggressive. but none of these guys understand economics. you are talking about a bunch of lawyers. you are talking about a bunch of people that study political science. you don't have anybody in congress that understands economic and they are foll
if they bring a deal that is too drastic of a stop it is not going to be good for the economy either. >> the bottom line is they are going through hoops to avoid what is core problematic for their respective party dna. the republicans don't want to raise rates. so they will go through all sorts of hoops to essentially get as much if not more revenue and effectively screwing the red chief and more. they don't wnt to address entitlement spending and even slowing the growth. it would be...
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in two thousand and eleven using their phones and tablets to buy stuff is this a good thing for an economy in the doldrums or does people buying stuff at wal-mart that was probably manufacture a broad really help we talked to peter schiff and the white house announced president obama will hit the road to sell his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff to the public c.n.n. reports while senate majority leader harry reid today said he is disappointed with the little progress made in recent debt talks according to the a b c now we know the u.s. public debt is just struck divs where the dollar collapse people like peter schiff have called for we asked them and who does warren buffett think would make a great treasury secretary charlie rose asked. the point to jamie dimon service charges well i mean. i think you'd be terrific because i think he i think he. if we did run into problems with markets i think he would be the best person you could have in you know. what are we in an alternative alternate universe the london whale commander in chief would be a great person to graduate to the treasury oh my le
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find out what's really happening to the global economy with. the global financial headlines. mission and free credit a should be free. for charges free arrangement three. free studio type free. old free broadcast quality video for your media for free. welcome back yesterday was cyber monday and online shoppers while they turned out they spent thirty percent more on cyber monday than last year according to data reported by the wall street journal now retailers were trying to sustain a thirteen percent gain in total thanksgiving weekend spending reported by the national retail federation so is this all a good sign for an economy in the doldrums the o.e.c.d. did after all just cut forecasts for u.s. growth next year from two point six percent to just two percent so is this a good thing all these consumers spending money or does it not do much since chances are many of the goods these shoppers shelled out for on sale were made in the u.s. because of peterson had to say. consumption is the reward for economic growth or does it cause growth it's production it's because all this stu
find out what's really happening to the global economy with. the global financial headlines. mission and free credit a should be free. for charges free arrangement three. free studio type free. old free broadcast quality video for your media for free. welcome back yesterday was cyber monday and online shoppers while they turned out they spent thirty percent more on cyber monday than last year according to data reported by the wall street journal now retailers were trying to sustain a thirteen...
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in economics and if the economy is moving one way or another like china you might see copper moving lower but for the moment it needs to be that one area that sees a little strength. in terms of the broader market let's look at stocks would fall as a classes covered for you. it is a mixed bag. you can see microsoft straddling the flat wine. otherwise mcdonald's moving higher, banc of america, decent tech names like hewlett-packard flexing their muscles as well. hewlett-packard jumping 3%, $0.56, bottom fishing going on there, some of the story and until up nearly 2%, verizon and at&t are the weak links along with jpmorgan chase. traders at the stock exchange, cme group and nynex, gold traded as well, when gold dropped $26 overnight and continues through the day what was it like, floor? >> those guys were pretty busy today but $26 is not a huge move for $1,700 product. but clearly something is going on. liz: if it goes below $1,700 which is one of those levels gold bugs look at, that becomes a big deal. >> people have a love affair with round numbers. they get infected, $90 crude or $70 go
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money out of the economy? >> everybody remembers very well the ugly process we went through in august of 2011 in raising the debt ceiling, and what happened immediately around the raising of that debt ceiling. we saw the stock markets crash. let me tell you if we go off this fiscal cliff -- and i put the blame squarely on the president. he's been awol on this issue for the last three years. now he's coming in and waving a flag, trying to take the glory, put the burden on republicans. republicans have been willing to negotiate. if he doesn't come forward and provide real leadership, we go off the cliff, the economic disaster that we're going to see is going to be squarely on the shoulders of this president. >> sean: i would like to adopt something like the mac penny plan. cut one penny out of every dollar washington spends, and we move to a balanced budget. with baseline budgeting, you have increases every year. can you ever get rid of baseline budgeting? >> if any corporation in america operated the way the co
money out of the economy? >> everybody remembers very well the ugly process we went through in august of 2011 in raising the debt ceiling, and what happened immediately around the raising of that debt ceiling. we saw the stock markets crash. let me tell you if we go off this fiscal cliff -- and i put the blame squarely on the president. he's been awol on this issue for the last three years. now he's coming in and waving a flag, trying to take the glory, put the burden on republicans....
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the economy is going to be a disaster. it's only going to get worse under obama. republicans are totally over the barrel because all tax cuts, bush tax cuts expire unless they agree to what is being portrayed as tax cuts for the rich. >> sean: boom. >> of course, let me finish the three points. it's not the rich. it's people who are currently engaged in making money or tax breaks as they say. for the rich i'd be more in favor of tax hikes on the rich. that's warren buffett and john kerry and diane feinstein. this is a tax on people desperately trying to become rich but the truly wish don't want them to. finally, the most important point is in two years we've got to take back the senate. >> sean: i don't want to talk about the election. >> the republicans need to concentrate on making sure this economy gets blamed on obama. there are things they can do like propose tax cuts or rather tax hikes for the truly rich, ie, warren buffett. no more state and low tax deductions. cut out that hollywood foin accounting. let's go after the 1% of the 1%. forget the 1% of income
the economy is going to be a disaster. it's only going to get worse under obama. republicans are totally over the barrel because all tax cuts, bush tax cuts expire unless they agree to what is being portrayed as tax cuts for the rich. >> sean: boom. >> of course, let me finish the three points. it's not the rich. it's people who are currently engaged in making money or tax breaks as they say. for the rich i'd be more in favor of tax hikes on the rich. that's warren buffett and john...
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just can't seem to get the economy going. lots of efforts and a ton of help from the state of chicken. why can't you get this back on track? >> like every urban area in the country, we are suffering in the foreclosure. we live and die by property taxes and sales taxes and they are all coming in shorter than anticipated. basically because the property values in detroit. it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order. in order to grow our economy. gerri: i have heard that before. we need more time to get our fiscal house in order. wouldn't it make more sense? i know that you are probably playing all kinds of different groups. all kinds of different political groups who want to have their voice heard. wouldn't it make more sense to come in and have the state on this thing -- the thing that we will fix this thing and get it done. >> unfortunately, they can't unilaterally change them. so the financial emergency manager coming into detroit, setting us back a y
just can't seem to get the economy going. lots of efforts and a ton of help from the state of chicken. why can't you get this back on track? >> like every urban area in the country, we are suffering in the foreclosure. we live and die by property taxes and sales taxes and they are all coming in shorter than anticipated. basically because the property values in detroit. it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order....
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said the surprise decision to hire mark carney was a significant positive turn for both the economy and the banks u.b.s. said it did not expect mr cornered to be as tough on lenders as his predecessor predicting an end to what it called an increasingly challenging u.k. regulatory agenda well it's appropriate as they must tony because he's overseeing a circus freak show of central bankers having their way. in the derivatives market the shadow banking system creating all kinds of contortionists out there in the central banking land and half naked ladies and in this case of mark carney he's in the math i'm out for date of banking because he wants both higher interest rates and looser monetary policy is a financial i'm afeard i you know they should put him in a. bill work perfectly and the city freak show one thread in the street there's mark carney and the bearded him aphrodite he wants higher rates and looser monetary policy welcome to the freak show mark carney where we've got your number i don't have a flag on this show every single way because that's what we do bad guys welcome to the
said the surprise decision to hire mark carney was a significant positive turn for both the economy and the banks u.b.s. said it did not expect mr cornered to be as tough on lenders as his predecessor predicting an end to what it called an increasingly challenging u.k. regulatory agenda well it's appropriate as they must tony because he's overseeing a circus freak show of central bankers having their way. in the derivatives market the shadow banking system creating all kinds of contortionists...
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what does that do to the economy? what does that do to you as a ceo thinking about your own business? >> iw that would be enough to cause me to start hiring, start investing a bunch again. because, again, we need something that markets would look at and say this is a credible $4 trillion plan that i can believe in. it doesn't kill us in the short-term and in the ten-year period, i can believe this is really going to happen. that's what we need to have. and even if they do something like you just described, if it's not connected to a longer term $4 trillion deal, i don't think that does that. it seems to me it's one of those -- you get kind of a tepid reaction would be my guess. >> would you get behind $4 trillion deal that was one-to-one, $2 trillion in spending cuts, $2 trillion in tax increases. >> i'm going to see how everything looks. >> that three to one deal, i think that was -- that was good for about two days. that's -- >> last year. >> that deal is off the table. >> well, that was simpson/bowles. >> that shou
what does that do to the economy? what does that do to you as a ceo thinking about your own business? >> iw that would be enough to cause me to start hiring, start investing a bunch again. because, again, we need something that markets would look at and say this is a credible $4 trillion plan that i can believe in. it doesn't kill us in the short-term and in the ten-year period, i can believe this is really going to happen. that's what we need to have. and even if they do something like...
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. >> in terms of the economy, are you worried about 2013? a lot of talk about recession, particularly if we were to go off the fiscal cliff. what's your take on economic landscape in the next year? >> i think there are mixed signs out there. there is great apprehension in small business and in business at large with the prospects of tax increases or dramatic spending cuts that might trigger triggered. i think there's great anxiety. when there's anxiety, people generally don't spend money. the concern is well founded. >> and my thanks to john wattson. >>> political posturing on the fiscal cliff from leading republicans and democrats alike. >> i remain hopeful that productive conversations can be had in the days ahead. but the white house has to get serious. >> we have made our proposal. let them come forward with something. >> find out what senate majority leader harry reid's nevada constituents are saying about his performance. >>> also, is it time for the u.s. to join the ranks and put $1 billis to rest in favor of a $1 coin? believe it or
. >> in terms of the economy, are you worried about 2013? a lot of talk about recession, particularly if we were to go off the fiscal cliff. what's your take on economic landscape in the next year? >> i think there are mixed signs out there. there is great apprehension in small business and in business at large with the prospects of tax increases or dramatic spending cuts that might trigger triggered. i think there's great anxiety. when there's anxiety, people generally don't spend...
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>> it's a very bifurcated economy today with the consumer. you have high end consumers that are still feeling pretty good but in very basic every day needs like food as well as basic services, et cetera, people no matter what economic strata they're in, they are trying to save on those basics. >> explains a lot about where we are. >> took my breath away. what he's saying is there's a huge percentage of people trying to pay for dinner and dinner is tough to come by and you forget about that on a fiscal cliff discussion that will be even more difficult for people to pay for dinner and he did this acquisition because he knows people are hurting in this country. >> there's the opening bell. s&p at the top of your screen. here's big board at that. prosperity bank shares marking transfer from the nasdaq and over at the nasdaq. >> you're talking about dinner. we are having discussion about whole foods under pressure of late. the company missed. the cfo resigned. never a good thing for a company when you hear a cfo resigning. stock down 18.25%. small
>> it's a very bifurcated economy today with the consumer. you have high end consumers that are still feeling pretty good but in very basic every day needs like food as well as basic services, et cetera, people no matter what economic strata they're in, they are trying to save on those basics. >> explains a lot about where we are. >> took my breath away. what he's saying is there's a huge percentage of people trying to pay for dinner and dinner is tough to come by and you...
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workers' wages have not been raised in real dollars for the last 30 years in this economy. the only jobs being created are low-wage, minimum-wage jobs without benefits or guaranteed hours. >> i think this is so strange. this is so strange. ma'am, we have billionaires on cnbc all the time. they tell us they get a social security check. they use medicare. and you can't even tell me that those people shouldn't have access to those benefits. we can't even cut off millionaires. but you're going to raise taxes. >> here's what we said when we created social security. that we wanted a minimum in this country and guaranteed social insurance program that has been turned into a notion that somehow it's some entitlement as opposed to a guarantee of the basic common good in this country. so, no, i am not willing to connect the question of medicare, medicaid, and social security to a conversation that this nation has been delaying for too long, which is how are we all in this together? how does everybody pay their fair share? and how do we restore economic recovery by getting people back
workers' wages have not been raised in real dollars for the last 30 years in this economy. the only jobs being created are low-wage, minimum-wage jobs without benefits or guaranteed hours. >> i think this is so strange. this is so strange. ma'am, we have billionaires on cnbc all the time. they tell us they get a social security check. they use medicare. and you can't even tell me that those people shouldn't have access to those benefits. we can't even cut off millionaires. but you're...
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. > based on what happened on small business saturday, how are entreprenuers feeling about the economy as we close out the year? > > small business saturday was fantastic. it's great to be local - it's good to buy local, it's good to sell local - so that was all great. what we know right now is that business owners tell us they are actually feeling better about cashflow than they were this time last year, and that is the oxygen in a small company, so i think it is a great sign. > will small business owners be passing that along to their employees? for instance, awarding bonuses? > > that is true. it is a bit of an up, up and away situation right now, with the holidays and small business owners. they are planning on giving bonuses this year in greater numbers than last year. one in four small business owners tell us they will in fact give bonuses this year. that's great news. > how about holiday office parties? i know my office never misses a holiday party, ever. we are grateful. > > everyone loves a party, and the holidays are a fantastic time for small business owners to thank their e
. > based on what happened on small business saturday, how are entreprenuers feeling about the economy as we close out the year? > > small business saturday was fantastic. it's great to be local - it's good to buy local, it's good to sell local - so that was all great. what we know right now is that business owners tell us they are actually feeling better about cashflow than they were this time last year, and that is the oxygen in a small company, so i think it is a great sign. >...
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you need grow the economy. >> the question is can we grow the economy like we have in the past. some people question whether 2007 was just a big bubble. you're right the 8.5% in gdp is his totorically what we bring i but you have to find some way to change the deficit and we have for the got p baten back to any of growth. >> it's because you all the borrowing has scared consumers, scared business investors. so what you really need is if president obama ran on a balanced plan, okay, he won, so maybe the reality is some tax rate will question up, but the problem with that is our deficit last year was $1090 billion large. my point to president obama is where is the other part of your balanced plan. how are you into to go restrain or close the additional trillion dollars worth of deficit. >> you want to see entitlements tackled. in th if that were the case, would you then go on the tax rate on the richest americans? >> i'm not going to answer hypotheticals and negotiate here on the set. what we need to do is see the president's plan. i've done enough negotiations in business to unde
you need grow the economy. >> the question is can we grow the economy like we have in the past. some people question whether 2007 was just a big bubble. you're right the 8.5% in gdp is his totorically what we bring i but you have to find some way to change the deficit and we have for the got p baten back to any of growth. >> it's because you all the borrowing has scared consumers, scared business investors. so what you really need is if president obama ran on a balanced plan, okay,...
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economy. >> more in 2012 than they otherwise would have gotten. >> absolutely. >> maybe after the first of the year with all these folk, see more spending on luxury items as well. people probably spend some. >> we hope so. >> sue, thanks. >>> guys, we are watching shares of facebook today the social media giant unveiling a new tweak to its instant messaging app. facebook up just about 2%. you don't even have to be a member to use this new app and julie boorstin is in los angeles with the three things you need to know this deal. hi, julia. >> hi, sue. well, facebook is continuing its big push to make money on mobile users by offering its messenger app to billions of people around the world with phones and no longer limiting that app to facebook users. here's the deal. first, mobile messenger is a free app for texting, group chat and photo sharing with no per-text fees. just carrier's regular data costs. doesn't yet yield direct revenues to facebook but it is serving as a gateway to join the soc
economy. >> more in 2012 than they otherwise would have gotten. >> absolutely. >> maybe after the first of the year with all these folk, see more spending on luxury items as well. people probably spend some. >> we hope so. >> sue, thanks. >>> guys, we are watching shares of facebook today the social media giant unveiling a new tweak to its instant messaging app. facebook up just about 2%. you don't even have to be a member to use this new app and julie...
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and certainly their people are the people who are killing thousands of mexicans and destroying their economy and murdering police chiefs thanks what if they got a drone and there was a mexican drug lord who was living in a house in phoenix arizona to fly the drone over that house and take out the city block kill a bunch of people but hey they killed a mexican drug lord do you think the united states would put up with that. how long is eight a why can't americans get their head around you know this idea that the people in pakistan are a little upset with us about this i think that we all need to be protesting clifton in st louis missouri clifton what's up. i'm like to bring the subject back to catastrophic climate change i think as americans we should do our support behind any of. them and there's going to climb them and i've got. as the consumers the largest consumers of energy in the world we have the power to change. and so we need to go our support behind. the world i'm only saying about that i'm totally with you ron i appreciate your raising the topic i think the global climate change bi
and certainly their people are the people who are killing thousands of mexicans and destroying their economy and murdering police chiefs thanks what if they got a drone and there was a mexican drug lord who was living in a house in phoenix arizona to fly the drone over that house and take out the city block kill a bunch of people but hey they killed a mexican drug lord do you think the united states would put up with that. how long is eight a why can't americans get their head around you know...